Comments on: Gays in Mexico http://elenamary.com/2005/05/gays-in-mexico/ de aquí y de allá - mirish xicana finds her place Wed, 16 May 2012 02:08:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: xoloitzquintle http://elenamary.com/2005/05/gays-in-mexico/comment-page-1/#comment-1193 xoloitzquintle Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.elenamary.com/blog/2005/05/27/gays-in-mexico/#comment-1193 My guess is those that are out are from the middle or afluent classes - hence the higher consumption and access to internet. Certainly those that frequent the clubs in the Zona Rosa need to have money and not look indigenous. Obviously the Church has a greater influence among the poor, thus stigmatizing homosexuality among that segment of the population. I wonder if there is any research on attitudes towards homosexuality among indigenous groups where the Church may not have as much influence. Something to look up. My guess is those that are out are from the middle or afluent classes – hence the higher consumption and access to internet. Certainly those that frequent the clubs in the Zona Rosa need to have money and not look indigenous. Obviously the Church has a greater influence among the poor, thus stigmatizing homosexuality among that segment of the population.

I wonder if there is any research on attitudes towards homosexuality among indigenous groups where the Church may not have as much influence. Something to look up.

]]> By: elenamary http://elenamary.com/2005/05/gays-in-mexico/comment-page-1/#comment-1194 elenamary Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.elenamary.com/blog/2005/05/27/gays-in-mexico/#comment-1194 Yeah I think you are very right in terms of those with the higher consumption are from the middle or afluent classes but I am not sure about the internet. For example my uncle who is one year older than me moved to Mexico city and came out of the closet once there. He was/is not from the middle class. He was from small town Mexico and grew up in poverty (no running water until about age 14). He was the first in our family to access the internet---via internet cafe and still does. Here is a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/elenamary/14808827/in/set-286627/">picture of him and his former boyfriend</a> that he meet via the internet. Yeah I think you are very right in terms of those with the higher consumption are from the middle or afluent classes but I am not sure about the internet. For example my uncle who is one year older than me moved to Mexico city and came out of the closet once there. He was/is not from the middle class. He was from small town Mexico and grew up in poverty (no running water until about age 14). He was the first in our family to access the internet—via internet cafe and still does. Here is a picture of him and his former boyfriend that he meet via the internet.

]]> By: Gustavo http://elenamary.com/2005/05/gays-in-mexico/comment-page-1/#comment-1195 Gustavo Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.elenamary.com/blog/2005/05/27/gays-in-mexico/#comment-1195 I don't get it...Mexicans are always portrayed as being "machistas" but wouldn't that also make them extremely anti-gay? My experience has been that in my neck of the woods (in Mexico) there has always been openly gay males (have yet to see females). In my own pueblito (population 1000) there have been a number of openly gays throughout the years. In La Barca (the biggest city near our pueblito) which is a city of about 60,000 people, there are many, many gays and even many transvestites. When I was younger we used to love going to a restaurant (mariscos) there owned by "Panchito" who was openly gay. Que relajo! He would always flirt with my friends and I and it always such a great time. Sadly though, I found out this year that he had passed away. I remember in my cultural anthropology classes case studies of homosexuality in indigenous cultures in which they were readily accepted, so maybe religion is what creates the stigma on homosexuality. The great divider in the states seems to be the church. In Mexico the church doesn’t readily attack gays. I wonder why? The bottom line is that I have always felt that Mexicans are more accepting of homosexuality, even more so than here in the states where you can get killed for being gay. Recently, on my way back from Mexico, I was listening to the news radio and there was an interesting case in which transvestite prostitutes had actually organized and formed a union. To make the story short they were able to settle with the city on an agreement as to where they would be able to “work.” Maybe this last part if a tad bit off the subject but I thought it was interesting. I don’t get it…Mexicans are always portrayed as being “machistas” but wouldn’t that also make them extremely anti-gay? My experience has been that in my neck of the woods (in Mexico) there has always been openly gay males (have yet to see females). In my own pueblito (population 1000) there have been a number of openly gays throughout the years. In La Barca (the biggest city near our pueblito) which is a city of about 60,000 people, there are many, many gays and even many transvestites. When I was younger we used to love going to a restaurant (mariscos) there owned by “Panchito” who was openly gay. Que relajo! He would always flirt with my friends and I and it always such a great time. Sadly though, I found out this year that he had passed away. I remember in my cultural anthropology classes case studies of homosexuality in indigenous cultures in which they were readily accepted, so maybe religion is what creates the stigma on homosexuality. The great divider in the states seems to be the church. In Mexico the church doesn’t readily attack gays. I wonder why? The bottom line is that I have always felt that Mexicans are more accepting of homosexuality, even more so than here in the states where you can get killed for being gay. Recently, on my way back from Mexico, I was listening to the news radio and there was an interesting case in which transvestite prostitutes had actually organized and formed a union. To make the story short they were able to settle with the city on an agreement as to where they would be able to “work.” Maybe this last part if a tad bit off the subject but I thought it was interesting.

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