Elenamary

I am kinda suprised, but not really?

He sounds like a Mark Hyman wannabe and I wonder if paying attention to his little crap tactics make him feel important?

But ignoring him makes my skin crawl.

Its funny that he thinks the “subtle” differenecs between two words are unimportant. Especially considering that he is a journalist.

And I didn’t know that living in the southwest made you an eugenist. Good to know.

Also good to know that he can’t handle criticism.

What ‘distinction’ is he talking about?

Elena- there are so mnay things wrong with this peice of fuff, I don’t even know what to say.

Perhaps journalism isn’t the best life choice for this (racist, ignorant, and excuse me for the ad hominem attacks, but compelete jerkface) writer.

This guy is not a journalist, rather a dumbass who thinks he can write.

If any student of mine handed in that piece as an argumentative essay, they would have gotten an F. Not because I disagree with the premise, rather it is poorly argued with no factual basis to support the arguments and it is poorly written. For example, most illegal immigrants do not sneak across the border as alleged by this idiot, rather they are individuals that overstay their visas.

I am surprised that an editor would allow this to go to print.

I wonder if this guy would want an interpreter/translator if he were ever arrested in a non-English speaking country. Somehow I think he would…

EM – I do have to take issue with something you said. The distinction between language and dialect basically boils down to the politics of classification. However, in the syntax used, the correct term would be language.

I have one more for inaccuracies. He mentioned something about an “English only” initiative in California. This implies that CA voters went to the polls and voted on a proposition to make English the official language. In 1998, CA voters voted on a proposition regarding bilingual education.

Again… poor excuse for a “journalist.”

Xolo,

I guess I am coming at this from a lingustics point of view (my bachelors was in Spanish linguistics). In terms of linguistics there is a difference between dialect and language albeit not always a clear one.

My other reason for identifying them as languages is because often we refer to dominate (in terms of numbers) languages as languages and those with less speakers as dialects. It is as if we are devaluing it as a language because less people speak it.

A rule of thumb, generally, on what is a dialect and language is whether the people can understand each other when speaking the same language. However, we know this doesn’t always work. For example there are some people in South Eastern United States whom I cannot understand at all when they speak, yet they are speaking English. And then again I sometimes can quite easily follow Italian speakers because of my Spanish. That said the languages Mr. Bronson listed where as you also noted, languages.

some things, what it comes down to, the difference between a dialect and a language is an army. although a dialect is suppossed to come out of an other language or be marked by regionalism, like the dialect of Southerners and cowboys. or like we say in the bay area, that’s hella lame what that cracker said about folks. if you still have the energy, you should still write. but i don’t even bother. if you want to reply, you should quote an encyclopedia on the distiction of language and dialect, as well as point out how a Latino includes people from Argentina, Chile (which are very European) to indigenous peoples. what this fuc.ers sometimes mean, is Mexicans and Central Americans. in all truth, this fuc.ers talk about “illegals” but for them it means mexican. tell them that if they don’t want us in this country to get the fuc. out of Mexico and the rest of Latin America, like they have been doing since this country was created.

So much for journalistic integrity.

he spends a lot of time speaking of the money spent on translation services. what about the money saved on cheap labor and unreported and unfiled taxes? very slanted article with the most annoying tone.

THEY WHINE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT ILLEGALS AND BORDER PATROLLING AND COURT COSTS, BUT HAVE LATINO WORKERS IN THEIR HOMES AS GARDNERS, HOUSE KEEPERS, BABYSITTERS, MECHANICS, ETC. … PISSESS ME OFF. WHETHER A LATINO LOOKS LATINO OR NOT IS NOT EXACTLY AN INTELLIGENT WAY OF DEFINING LEGAL STATUS, BUT THEN AGAIN MR. BRONSON DOESN’T SHINE VERY BRIGHTLY. IGNORING HIM DOESN’T MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL AS IT DOES ANNE. HE’S JUST THE RESULT OF THE USUAL IGNORANCE THAT SEEMS TO PERMIATE THOSE WITH INFERIORITY COMPLEXES AND TOO MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS….